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미니 Samsung has indeed not brought us' Amazing 'phones for a long time
- iceuniverse
- 조회 수 981
- 2023.06.02. 14:15
According to rumors, the S24 Ultra probably won't be amazing either. I want to know why? Even Apple, who seems lazy, will bring many obvious improvements to the iPhone 15 Pro Max, such as new buttons, new periscope telephoto lens, titanium metal, super narrow bezel, USB-C, and the invincible screen. These new improvements are obvious.
And Samsung, I dare not expect such a significant improvement now
1.From the S22 series to the S23 series, its improvements are almost indistinguishable in appearance, and its internal improvements are highly dependent on the computing power and processing power of the 8Gen2, rather than Samsung's own efforts. Samsung's only effort is to reduce costs once again.
2. From Watch4 to Watch5, the appearance has hardly changed, which is not the most serious issue. The most serious issue is the software OS, and Samsung's watches are always not smooth, far inferior to Apple or even OPPO watches, leading to a significant decline in Watch5 sales in China. However, the changes in Watch6 are still not significant, only reducing the bezel by 1.2mm.
3. From Tab S8 Ultra to Tab S9 Ultra, the appearance remains the same, even after two years, the notch design is still retained, and the majority of specifications are the same, except for the processor and screen.
4. From Fold4 to Fold5, I heard the complaint of Fold5 testers. The design is almost identical, the camera is identical, even the crease is the same, but it is only 0.2mm thinner. After closing, it is 13.4mm thick, which is still thicker than MIX Fold2, not to mention Mate X3
5. One UI, there hasn't been much change in recent years, I'm not sure if One UI 6 can break through.
In short, the feeling Samsung gives me is that he seems to have done something, but also seems to have done nothing.
Working at Samsung is definitely boring. They repeat the same work as last year every day, and there is nothing exciting. Even if there is, such as the larger external screen of the Flip5, it has long been taken advantage of by competitors.
I don't know why on earth? Are the teams led by TM Roh just like him, only concerned about profits and not about innovation?
I don't think this is a normal company.
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If Samsung cannot improve in other areas, at least it can make improvements in appearance to let users know that this is a new phone. Even for lazy Apple, the iPhone 14 Pro has removed the notch, and the iPhone 15 Pro has greatly reduced the bezel, at least letting Apple fans know, "Wow, this looks like a new phone
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What do you think is the difference between iPhone 12 Pro and 14 Pro? If two of the world's best-selling flagship series seem to be making little progress, I think we should consider why.
Technically, of course, the phones you're talking about from Chinese manufacturers with a lot of experimental spirit are great. But will it benefit the company as well? We already know of a company that was experimenting and had to go out of business as a result. I don't know if you've heard of LG Electronics.
Samsung and Apple watch Chinese manufacturers load new technology, then pick up what looks good and put it in their products. Why would they take the risk?
*한국어 요약: 중국폰들이 모험하는거 좋은데, 그걸 삼앱이 왜 함? 그러다 LG꼴 남.
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iPhone12 Pro→14 pro
Dynamic island and software interaction are new things, with narrower bezels and powerful new 48MP RAW.
Although many Chinese brands' efforts and market share returns do not match, the reason here is that Chinese brand smartphones are still mostly limited to sales in China. This is a market strategy issue, and what really matters is the competitiveness of the phones themselves. Once they leave China and open up foreign markets, Samsung will instantly become extremely dangerous. This is only a matter of time, and it will happen sooner or later. Samsung has always regarded market channels as its own moat, which is unreliable. What truly drives a company forward is the product itself, not the market advantage.
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Why do you think Chinese flagship phones are limited to the Chinese market? It's not being sanctioned by the US government like Huawei, and brands like Xiaomi are already selling their phones well oversea.
Isn't it just that no one wants to buy a Chinese flagship? The cheap OnePlus sold well overseas as well. Just raised the price and ruined it.
It just seems like common paranoia to me.
*한국어 요약: 샤오미는 잘만 파는데? 중국 플래그십이 해외에서 그냥 안팔리는거 아님?
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Chinese brands are already selling their flagship smartphones in overseas markets like Europe. But they've never done well. If Chinese brands' smartphones really are more attractive devices than Samsung's, why aren't consumers buying them? Why aren't they dominating the premium market, and why do their profits keep falling?
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The Mi Mix Fold 2 is not waterproof and does not have a free-stop hinge
It's only slightly thinner than the Z Fold 4.
Is Thinness Innovative? wihout Function, like waterproofing or a free-stop hinge, or Is it just valued for being thin?"
Even Huawei products don't even have 5G.
I don't think this is a Innovation.
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MIX Fold2 is not worth discussing. What we are discussing is that their development speed is too fast. The improvement of each generation of products is equivalent to the improvement of Samsung's two generations of products. Samsung's progress in Fold5 is too small, with most specifications falling behind the Mate X3. But don't forget, it faces MIX Fold3, Mate X4, OPPO Find N3, vivo X Fold3...
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In my opinion, innovative and experimental change is the privilege of the challenger. Challengers take risks and quickly introduce new technologies or designs. Samsung used to have that kind of period. However, Samsung and Apple are already deeply entrenched companies in the market and do not have to take big risks. That's not to say that they refuse to innovate. Apple's sales show that preemptive installation of new technologies or designs does not necessarily mean that they dominate the market.
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현재 삼성이 새로운 무언가를 보여주기 힘든 현실은 동의하지만,
그렇다고 애플 아이폰15프로에서 개선예정된 것들이 "새로운 무언가"라고 생각하지는 않습니다.
시작가격 $1100달러짜리 (프로)플래그십 스마트폰이 라이트닝포트 + usb2.0을 고집하다가 이번 후속작에서 개선한다고해서 그게 새로운 무언가는 아니지요.
당신이 서술한 매우 얇아지는 베젤, 엄청난 카메라 개선점 등이 있으며 아직 유출되지않은 놀라운 어떤것이 있을 수 있지만,
애플 아이폰 프로는 여전히 무겁고, 카메라 범프는 기괴하게 두껍고 넓은 면적을 가지고 있습니다.
물론 상대적으로 얇고 가벼운 아이폰15/15 Plus라는 선택지가 있지만
그들은 프로맥스만큼 베젤이 얇아지지 않으며, 120Hz 지원하지 않고, 구식의 라이트닝2.0 포트를 유지할 예정이지 않습니까? AOD는?
120Hz는 중국의 저가형 스마트폰에서도 사용하고 있는데
이런 매우 기본적인 옵션들을 매년 1∼2개 씩 풀어주는 옵션 인질행위를 하고 있다고 생각합니다.
갤럭시 S23 혹은 S22 일반모델이 USB 2.0, AOD미지원 60Hz 노치디스플레이를 가지고 있는것을 상상해보십시오.
삼성은 애플만큼 강력한 AP를 가지고 있지 않기에 "최소한의 노력"은 이미 수년전에 완료했다고 생각합니다.
중국의 폴더블 폰의 놀라운 발전속도는 인정하며, 개인적으로 OPPO의 Find N시리즈를 가장 흥미롭게 지켜보고 있습니다.
하지만 그들은 여전히 글로벌 시장 진입에 문제가 있으며,
미패드를 사용해본 사람으로서 중국제조사의 OS는 보완할 점이 다소 많아보입니다.
또한 그들은 백도어 논란에서 자유로울 수 없으며, 이를 해결한다고 하더라도 그 이미지를 벗어나는데 매우 오랜시간이 걸릴 것입니다.
당분간 폴더블 시장에서 삼성의 경쟁상대는 없어보입니다. 애플에서 본격적으로 폴더블 스마트폰/태블릿 생산을 시작하기 전까지 말이죠.
꾸준히 평타 이상 하는 것도 능력이라 생각합니다. 요 근래 아쉬운 부분(DX DS 통틀어서)도 많긴 하지만 삼전만한 회사가 몇이나 될까요.